Buenos días
Voy a hacer un indoor de aprox 1m2, y por varios factores (consumo, Factura eléctrica, temperatura, e inversión inicial) he estado mirando bastante info acerca de las lámparas LED comerciales.
Las UFO creo que las descarto porque he leido criticas y opiniones bastante malas. Entonces están los Apollo4 y 6 (creo que para 1m2 el Apollo6 seria más idóneo). Por el tema de la inversión, tengo algo ahorrado, por lo que si tuviera la certeza de que "tal" marca o panel me va a dar buen rendimiento, no me lo pensaría.
El asunto es que he leido que en floración, algunos leds son bastante chungueros... y lo que yo busco es usar el mismo panel (de unos 240 / 270W, o los mismos paneles, porque quizá me plantearia usar 2 paneles de 130W para abarcar mejor el área del armario), sin cambiar a Sodio o Fluorescentes cuando entren en Floración.
He estado "dando la vara" a una compañera del foro (muchas gracias por tu paciencia y ayuda), y ella misma me propuso que pusiera un hilo, a ver si entre todos me ayudáis a decidirme.
De momento, el que más me ha convencido es este (los leds son Epistar, es decir, que son de una marca relativamente buena) : http://www.grownorthern.co.uk/index.php/online-store/ms-0006
Diffused spectra per module:
(Deep Red 6pcs,Red 5pcs, Blue 2pcs pcs, Cool white 1pcs, Infrared 1pc)
Technical/Performance Parameters-
Parameters:
Input Voltage: AC 85-264v
Output Voltage: DC 35-45v
Input Frequency: 50/60hz
Power Consumption: Cold start -180w / Max- 270 watts / Typical- 186w
Working Environment: 20-40 °C
Dimensions: 383*283*85(mm)
Weight: 5.6kgs
Component Specification -
Specification:90pcs x 3w chip
15pcs x 3w LED Per Module
Epistar 630nm, 660nm, 740nm & EPILED 460nm, 6000k AL MCPCB
Primary optic 120 degree, Secondary optic 90 degree
3X Isolated power drive4X 12V Cooling fansAliminium heatsing and casing
Intelligent monitoring system
What makes our Modular series so good?
Classic 3w- The best of
The modular series uses the same high quality Epistar chips for red, deep red and infrared as our classic 3w series. These are currently the highest performing red, far red and infra red spectra chips available. Apart from these chips the entire design and components are new.
Modular- A light for the future
Each 15 x 3 watt LED engine can be individually repaired, replaced or upgraded by the user (we will be releasing unique modules using the latest LED technology over the next 5 years so your units can be updated with current developments in LED technology & horticulture. This gives us the classic ballast & lamp format for making the units reusable if there are faults after the 3 year warranty period
Plant Growth- The best we have seen
One of the best aspects of the new units is the vast improvement to the photon flux density per targeted cm2. Our secondary focusing optics produce a much greater light intensity equally over a more precise area. We have already seen a vast improvement in flowering growth in our prototype testing and now our new units for 2012 are being passed over to the best growers in the UK. We are sponsoring prize growers this year with our Modular and HP5w series. Grow journals will be available on this site early in the new year.
GrowNorthern- Unique
Our new Pulse Frequency research & software allows us to maintain the same constant rate of photosynthesis produced by our by constant current drivers but with the benefits of limiting by duty cycle rather than by current. The LED's are Pulsed at a very high resolution and then the pulse width is adjusted to find a sweet spot between the rate of carbon fluxing, power consumption & the LEDs performance. Lifespan & lumen maintenance of each chip is lengthened as they reach an equilibrium temperature at 10-15 °C lower than the classic series and they are not being constantly over driven.
The new drivers are designed by Grownorthern. They are isolated power drives that use transformers, drivers and complex integrated circuits to protect the LEDs and the user from the mains. The output voltage is below 45 volts per module making our Modular series some of the safest LED grow lights available. Our integrated circuit is linked to a built in monitoring system and micro controllers to adjust the LEDs performance. Individual indication LEDs show the user that the system is running correctly
GrowNorthen Warranty -3 Year
When your buying a product that is built to last along time and includes an extensive warranty, you want to be sure that the company will last as long as the product. We are one of the longest running and most established UK LED grow light specialists and we're here to stay. We have the experience and product knowledge to isolate and fix faults quickly and permanently.
Quality engineering and manufacturing
Our modular series only uses top spec components. The high quality chips and drivers are complimented by smart thermal and process engineering.
Custom- Everything’s modular
With diffrent casing, front shield and vent fascias available, along with a variety of secondary optics and LED modules to be released, these lights can be much further customized internally & externally.
He estado buscando paneles con leds CREE o OSRAM o PHILIPS, pero no los he encontrado...
Mis preguntas son:
1) Cuantos W me recomendais para 1m2? -teniendo en cuenta que quiero usar la misma iluminacion para todo el ciclo-
2) Qué modelo / marca / tienda me aconsejais?
3) Qué precios serían aceptables?
Os agradecería mucho que me echáseis un cable, ya que voy a hacer la inversión pronto, y me gustaría decidirme este mismo mes.
Saludos y gracias a tod@s !!
Voy a hacer un indoor de aprox 1m2, y por varios factores (consumo, Factura eléctrica, temperatura, e inversión inicial) he estado mirando bastante info acerca de las lámparas LED comerciales.
Las UFO creo que las descarto porque he leido criticas y opiniones bastante malas. Entonces están los Apollo4 y 6 (creo que para 1m2 el Apollo6 seria más idóneo). Por el tema de la inversión, tengo algo ahorrado, por lo que si tuviera la certeza de que "tal" marca o panel me va a dar buen rendimiento, no me lo pensaría.
El asunto es que he leido que en floración, algunos leds son bastante chungueros... y lo que yo busco es usar el mismo panel (de unos 240 / 270W, o los mismos paneles, porque quizá me plantearia usar 2 paneles de 130W para abarcar mejor el área del armario), sin cambiar a Sodio o Fluorescentes cuando entren en Floración.
He estado "dando la vara" a una compañera del foro (muchas gracias por tu paciencia y ayuda), y ella misma me propuso que pusiera un hilo, a ver si entre todos me ayudáis a decidirme.
De momento, el que más me ha convencido es este (los leds son Epistar, es decir, que son de una marca relativamente buena) : http://www.grownorthern.co.uk/index.php/online-store/ms-0006
Diffused spectra per module:
(Deep Red 6pcs,Red 5pcs, Blue 2pcs pcs, Cool white 1pcs, Infrared 1pc)
Technical/Performance Parameters-
Parameters:
Input Voltage: AC 85-264v
Output Voltage: DC 35-45v
Input Frequency: 50/60hz
Power Consumption: Cold start -180w / Max- 270 watts / Typical- 186w
Working Environment: 20-40 °C
Dimensions: 383*283*85(mm)
Weight: 5.6kgs
Component Specification -
Specification:90pcs x 3w chip
15pcs x 3w LED Per Module
Epistar 630nm, 660nm, 740nm & EPILED 460nm, 6000k AL MCPCB
Primary optic 120 degree, Secondary optic 90 degree
3X Isolated power drive4X 12V Cooling fansAliminium heatsing and casing
Intelligent monitoring system
What makes our Modular series so good?
Classic 3w- The best of
The modular series uses the same high quality Epistar chips for red, deep red and infrared as our classic 3w series. These are currently the highest performing red, far red and infra red spectra chips available. Apart from these chips the entire design and components are new.
Modular- A light for the future
Each 15 x 3 watt LED engine can be individually repaired, replaced or upgraded by the user (we will be releasing unique modules using the latest LED technology over the next 5 years so your units can be updated with current developments in LED technology & horticulture. This gives us the classic ballast & lamp format for making the units reusable if there are faults after the 3 year warranty period
Plant Growth- The best we have seen
One of the best aspects of the new units is the vast improvement to the photon flux density per targeted cm2. Our secondary focusing optics produce a much greater light intensity equally over a more precise area. We have already seen a vast improvement in flowering growth in our prototype testing and now our new units for 2012 are being passed over to the best growers in the UK. We are sponsoring prize growers this year with our Modular and HP5w series. Grow journals will be available on this site early in the new year.
GrowNorthern- Unique
Our new Pulse Frequency research & software allows us to maintain the same constant rate of photosynthesis produced by our by constant current drivers but with the benefits of limiting by duty cycle rather than by current. The LED's are Pulsed at a very high resolution and then the pulse width is adjusted to find a sweet spot between the rate of carbon fluxing, power consumption & the LEDs performance. Lifespan & lumen maintenance of each chip is lengthened as they reach an equilibrium temperature at 10-15 °C lower than the classic series and they are not being constantly over driven.
The new drivers are designed by Grownorthern. They are isolated power drives that use transformers, drivers and complex integrated circuits to protect the LEDs and the user from the mains. The output voltage is below 45 volts per module making our Modular series some of the safest LED grow lights available. Our integrated circuit is linked to a built in monitoring system and micro controllers to adjust the LEDs performance. Individual indication LEDs show the user that the system is running correctly
GrowNorthen Warranty -3 Year
When your buying a product that is built to last along time and includes an extensive warranty, you want to be sure that the company will last as long as the product. We are one of the longest running and most established UK LED grow light specialists and we're here to stay. We have the experience and product knowledge to isolate and fix faults quickly and permanently.
Quality engineering and manufacturing
Our modular series only uses top spec components. The high quality chips and drivers are complimented by smart thermal and process engineering.
Custom- Everything’s modular
With diffrent casing, front shield and vent fascias available, along with a variety of secondary optics and LED modules to be released, these lights can be much further customized internally & externally.
He estado buscando paneles con leds CREE o OSRAM o PHILIPS, pero no los he encontrado...
Mis preguntas son:
1) Cuantos W me recomendais para 1m2? -teniendo en cuenta que quiero usar la misma iluminacion para todo el ciclo-
2) Qué modelo / marca / tienda me aconsejais?
3) Qué precios serían aceptables?
Os agradecería mucho que me echáseis un cable, ya que voy a hacer la inversión pronto, y me gustaría decidirme este mismo mes.
Saludos y gracias a tod@s !!